To date, the possibility of obtaining a passport of another country became for many the ultimate dream. However, in high demand, the country started to create different investment programs in business immigration. One of the founders of the consulting business of immigration in the CIS and head of financial consulting company APEX Capital Partners Nuri Katz told Bank.ru, how to become a citizen of another country that pushes people to such a step, and why every second Russian businessman thinks about moving abroad . - Tell us about your activities in the field of investment programs. - I started to deal with issues of immigration back in 1993, then founded our company. APEX originally worked only with Canada, but now we are working in areas such as the USA, Bulgaria, and St. Kitts. - And what direction is the most popular? - In the first place is Canada, because the country has vast experience in the field of investment programs. The first of them came back in the 80's. It was created mainly for the Chinese living in Hong Kong. More than 100 years ago, China passed the Hong Kong lease the British. Lease was to expire in 1997. Ie gonkongtsam obviously was already known the day and hour when their area becomes communist. Trying to protect themselves, they lobbied the state of Canada. As a result, has developed an investment program that allows you to emigrate to North America. Subsequently, it has benefited not only the Chinese but also people from Korea, India and other countries. Then came Russia. In the 90's here are good to earn money, and wishing to protect themselves, people want to get a second citizenship. - As far as we know, you have participated in the design of investment laws of Canada? - In 2001, the Canadian government decided to change the law that already existed 25 years old and very outdated. Then the lawmakers asked for advice to a group of people who have worked with investors and other immigrants. Among them was me. Now, many states have created similar investment programs, because they offer the country a huge profit. For example, recent issues of business immigration broke and Bulgaria. By the way, help in developing the program has provided the Ministry of Immigration Canada. - However, in Bulgaria to be presented to investors is much less demand. - Yes, but only so far. Depending on investment results of these programs in all countries are constantly changing. For example, in the 85th year in Canada, you could buy any company for only $ 150 thousand, being in the role of the immigrant-investor, and now it's impossible. - It seems that in the U.S., unlike Canada, the money is not returned to the investor? - True, money is not returned, moreover, they can be lost. In Canada, as we know, need to invest in government-guaranteed programs, and in the U.S. in an existing business or a regional center. True, it is necessary to understand that not every business can be successful. - And on the other tracks are not going to work? For example, a program of Germany or the UK? - Passport of European states nothing of each other is no different. In Austria, too, has its own investment program, which involves investments worth $ 3 million, but why spend that kind of money when you can pay up to 6 times cheaper Bulgarian program, get a passport and live in Austria. This is the cheapest and easiest way to get a European passport. In addition, Bulgaria is not necessarily a physical presence. - Your company has been around for a long time, what the trends in demand? It changing? - Everything depends on the economy. In the middle of 2000th years. because of the financial crisis and, of course, political change demand fell almost to zero, but now he has recovered. - And how can you comment Rosstat? If you believe the official statistics, out of the country leaving fewer and fewer people. So, if in 1998 left Russia 213 thousand people, in 2005-2007. - 47 th, in the first half of 2010 - only 11 thousand people. - My clients are not included in the designated number. Understand, it's Interior Ministry data, and most people do not take statements in the passport office and do not abandon the Russian registration. So I would strongly argue with that data. True, on the other hand, Russia has more poor people. Many simply can not afford to leave the country because it is expensive. - Do you think that is why over the past 10 years has changed shape companies, helping to leave the country? Previously, the landmark was placed on people wanting to find low-skilled jobs abroad, and now - for professional investors. - Perhaps this is due to the effects of 1998. Then, in Russia, too, was a crisis, he just wore a local character. People in need of work, while other countries quickly realized this and willingly took advantage of cheap labor. Soon the economy rebounded, and now none of the Russians are not willing to work for peanuts. - What is the statistics calls in your company? - We work with very rich people. Most of our clients refer only to the recommendation. Therefore, if a year came to us 20-30 clients, I can safely say that this year a success. - What is the value of your services? - Everything depends on the type of program and its complexity. The amount starts at $ 25 thousand, can reach up to $ 100 thousand and so on. In fact, this small amount of money, expensive program itself. - How do you help your clients? - First we find out what they want, how they pursue goals, why they came to us. It's one thing if a person wants to insure himself and just wants to be able to leave and the country and another, if decided to leave the country permanently. Then we look at the financial possibilities of the client, pay attention to the banks that help fund the investor. What do I mean? For example, a person wants to obtain a residency permit in Canada. Theoretically, it should invest the $ 800 thousand Canadian dollars, but if he does not have such free money and all of its funds are the assets, business and real estate. In this case, I help him to apply to various financial institutions to arrange a loan. Ie the client gives the money and he only pays interest on them. - How long does it take to review my application? - In different ways, in Canada it could take 1-4 years, in Bulgaria - 6-9 months, the United States - from 6 months to 1 year, and in St. Kitts - up to 6 months. In addition, each country will need to prove the legality of income, while in Russia, taking into account the various loopholes in the law - is an art. The question of legality is always very slippery. - Compared to other countries from Russia leaves a lot of people on business immigration program? - No, its just a little. For example, last year from China to the United States filed an application for business program about 2,5 thousand people, from Russia - only 60 people. Much depends on the kind of situation in the country. For example, now people are trying to leave South Korea, Iran and Pakistan. The tense situation continues in Russia. Many businessmen believe that they are in danger. This feeling was aggravated after being first arrested Khodorkovsky. Now the situation could repeat itself. I find it hard to say whether these fears are justified, but the fact remains. Recently, a study was conducted, the results of which I was shocked. It turns out 49% of Russian businessmen do not exclude the possibility that within 5 years they can leave the country. For comparison, I'm sure that if such a survey was conducted in Canada, in this way would answer no more than 1%. - And what does this mean? - In Russia there is something to work. Perhaps the government should pay attention to these numbers and take some action to solve the problem of people and they're no longer thinking about migration. It should not be. It is not normal, when every other businessman, not sure about their future. Need something to do with it.
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